Is the rally ending, or does it have more to go?
Source: http://www.investmentpostcards.com/2009/09/19/is-the-rally-ending-or-does-it-have-more-to-go/Posted on Saturday, September 19th, 2009 | In Investing Lessons, Market Commentary
This is a guest post by Barry Ritholtz, editor of The Big Picture Blog and author of the popular book, Bailout Nation.
OK, it’s time for round 2, Shedlock vs. Ritholtz.
You may recall that last time, Mish & I disagreed as to whether this was a recession (Me) or a depression (He). This time, the debate is over the current rally.
On Monday this week on Yahoo Tech Ticker, I discussed that we did not see evidence that the rally was ending (see “Rally May Only Be in 6th or 7th Inning, Ritholtz Says“).
Shedlock pens a response – “Rally in 6th Inning or Top of the 12th?” – and discusses the reasons he thinks the market rally should be ending soon: “The flip side of the coin is this market has advanced so far, so fast that if downside momentum does develop, there is nothing but air pockets below. Air pockets are thus a two-way street. If anything, there is far more air below than above.”
That may be. However, none of the various metrics we track suggest the rally is about to run out of gas anytime soon. That doesn’t mean it can’t end to tomorrow, but we would rather play the high probability, rather than low probability outcomes.
Here are the four most important reasons why I think we can have more upside, plus a look at some grim economic realty.
1) Individual investors remain under-invested.
2) Market breadth and momentum are each positive (i.e. supportive of further upside).
3) Sentiment has not yet reached extreme levels.
4) The broader investment community believes – incorrectly in my opinion – that a recovery is upon us, profits are getting better.
5) History shows that secular bear markets have deep selloffs and huge rallies; this current rally still has room to run based upon a composite of prior cycles (see “Four Stages of Secular Bear Markets“).
Now, about that economy. Here is my dirty little secret. FOR TWO THIRDS OF THE TIME, THE ECONOMY REALLY DOES NOT MATTER.
I know that sounds insane, but consider the following: In the middle of secular bull markets, economic info seems to have the greatest correlation with market performance. Good data, more profits, better market action.
At market tops, the economy looks great. Valuations are rich, but record profits support the multiple.
Then it all goes to hell.
At bottoms, it looks awful. It looks like these companies will never make another dime, that layoffs won’t ever end, that we can never escape the tar pit.
And then we do.
This must be perplexing, maddening, infuriating to pure economists. But that is Mr.Market’s job – to frustrate the maximum number of players.
Source: Barry Ritholtz, The Big Picture, September 17, 2009.
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Prieur du Plessis has 25 years’ experience in professional investment research and portfolio management. More than 1,000 of his articles on investment-related topics have been published in various regular newspaper, journal and Internet columns. He has also published a book, Financial Basics: Investment. Prieur is chief executive and principal shareholder of South African-based Plexus Asset Management, which he founded in 1995. The group conducts investment management, investment consulting, private equity and real estate activities in South Africa and other African countries. Plexus is the South African partner of John Mauldin, author of the Thoughts from the Frontline e-letter, and also has an exclusive licensing agreement with California-based Research Affiliates for managing and distributing its enhanced Fundamental IndexTM methodology in the Pan-African area. Prieur is 52 years old and lives with his wife, television producer and presenter Isabel Verwey, and two children in Cape Town, South Africa. His recreational activities include long-distance running, motor cycling, traveling and reading. |




